Hyundai's Grandeur/Azura fully reveled

"LJ909" (lj909) 11/04/2019 at 16:42 • Filed to: 2020 Hyundai Grandeur, Hyundai

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Its a looker for sure. !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! has full details on the new model. If Genesis wasn’ t a thing here, this could play Avalon to the Sonata’s Camry again. Power comes from a 2.5 I4 paired to an 8 speed auto. And a hybrid is coming powered by a 38 kw motor and a 2.4 I4. There’ s also weirdly a natural gas powered model.

The interior is fantastic and follows the design theme of the new Sonata and Palisade. Apparently its coming to market loaded too with them saying : Wheels as large as 19 inches are available, along with goodies like a head-up display, panoramic sunroof, ventilated seats, and a 12-speaker JBL sound system. The list goes on with full LED headlights and electric seats, not to mention a plethora of safety and assistance systems as you’d expect from a flagship car.  

I could see this selling if they brought it here. But it would never because, again Genesis is a thing. A very good thing at that.

Chariotoflove > LJ909 11/04/2019 at 16:57

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Oh, I quit like that.

But then I liked the old Azera too.

LJ909 > Chariotoflove 11/04/2019 at 17:00

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I actually liked the old Azera too, especially the second gen. It was pretty much a bigger more luxurious Sonata both in position in the lineup and in styling.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > LJ909 11/04/2019 at 17:11

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It’s just so dull to drive, but not in the luxurious disconnected way a Lexus is. 

dogisbadob > LJ909 11/04/2019 at 17:22

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I like the fact that it’s an I4 and not a transverse V6!

They could always call it a Genesis G50 or something for export markets

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > LJ909 11/04/2019 at 17:29

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That white on tan interior.

Pair that with a nice metallic maroon exterior and sign me up. 

LJ909 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 11/04/2019 at 17:40

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Right. You’re just...there.

LJ909 > dogisbadob 11/04/2019 at 17:43

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It could work in the Genesis lineup. Between the G70 and G80 though. Something to lure those ES buyers away.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > LJ909 11/04/2019 at 18:06

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That’s a hell of a fight to pick. Most ES owners ice talk to say “oh yeah this is my. 3rd, 4th, 5th one.”

I complimented a guy with a brand new one a few weeks ago, because I genuinely think that are gorgeous. He told me he’s bought new one every 3 years since 97 when he replaced his SeVille with one.

LJ909 > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 11/04/2019 at 18:11

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Yea the ES is one of those cars that has loyal repeat buyers that no one talks about. I think the people like that are the bulk of their sales. 

Chariotoflove > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 11/04/2019 at 18:20

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It was supposed to be a comfortable, capable road trip machine. Driving dynamics weren’t a priority to anyone that would buy this.  That’s not a bad thing.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Chariotoflove 11/04/2019 at 18:26

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I’m aware of that, as stated in the la st part of the comment . It’s too disconnected to be comfortable, and th e suspension is more bouncy than my GTI was. It’s a ba d compromise between sporty and comfortable . My parents are also still fighting dealers to actually  get a carbon cleaning, as it rolls coal like a tuned and deleted diesel.

Chariotoflove > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 11/04/2019 at 18:31

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Okay I can see that disconnected saps confidence if it’s too evident. Bouncy would be really bad, at least unless you hit really bad potholes.

Bad emissions are a problem. I hope Hyundai/Kia are cleaning up their engine options. Emissions and mpg haven’t been tops of their list in their bigger offerings, historically.

I had a friend who was quite happy with the way it drove, but lost it when someone totaled him. Good safety, apparently.

not for canada - australian in disguise > LJ909 11/05/2019 at 21:32

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I’m a big fan of this, slap a Genesis badge on it, call it the G6 0 or something, and boom, instant Lexus ES killer. Then again, not like the ES needed a killer or anything. It’s already a pretty niche car.

phenotyp > LJ909 11/05/2019 at 22:05

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That is a very nice interior.

jimz > LJ909 11/06/2019 at 08:01

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Oh god that’s hideous

jimz > LJ909 11/06/2019 at 10:26

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I should clarify that the interior looks really nice, but that front end makes me think we should stop ripping on BMW’s grilles and say “WTF Hyundai” instead.